Yale Vs. Harvard

film no. 67

technical details:

Production G-1.

Filmed June 13 to 24, 1927. See the 'miscellaneous' section below for details.

The title sheet was prepared by H. M. Walker on July 2, 1927.

The cutting continuity was submitted July 28, 1927.

Copyrighted August 17, 1927, by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Corporation. Registration no. LP24290. Renewed July 11, 1955, with registration no. R152702. This copyright expired at the end of 2022, and the film is now in the public domain.

This film was shown Aug. 27, 1927, on the opening night of the Wayne Theatre in Wayne, Michigan.

Released September 24, 1927. It was the 64th film in the series to be released.

Silent two-reeler.

Opening title: '"Our Gang" Comedies - Hal Roach presents His Rascals in "Yale Vs Harvard".' With the change in distribution to MGM, the lobby posters started to delete the '"Our Gang" Comedies' part, and say 'Hal Roach presents Our Gang in....'

the crew:

Produced by Hal Roach
Credited in the film as a presenter.
Directed by Robert F. McGowan
This credit appears in the film, but without his middle initial.
Photographed by Art Lloyd
This credit appears in the film.
Edited by Richard Currier
This credit appears in the film.
Titles by H. M. Walker
This credit appears in the film.
Animation by Roy Seawright
This credit derives from Seawright's payroll status as the studio animator during this period. This film features animated words coming out of a bullhorn.
Animal Trainer: Harry Lucenay
He was Pete's owner and trainer.
Teacher: Fern Carter
Released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
Indicated at the opening of the film.
Passed by the National Board of Review
As indicated in the film.
studio personnel
director-general - Leo McCarey
general manager - Warren Doane
assistant general manager - L. A. French
secretary-treasurer - C. H. Roach
construction supervisor - C. E. Christensen
laboratory superintendent - Charles Levin
optical effects supervisor - Roy Seawright
still photographer - Bud "Stax" Graves
transportation director - Bob Davis
possible uncredited involvement
assistant direction - Probably Charles Oelze.
assistant cameraman - Probably Clair Boshard.
cutting - Probably Lloyd Campbell.
writing - Presumably, Hal E. Roach and Robert F. McGowan headed the story department, with possible assistance from Robert A. McGowan, Jean Yarbrough and Charlie Hall.
property department - Charles Oelze, Don Sandstrom and Thomas Benton Roberts were probably involved in this capacity.

the kids:

Joe Cobb as "Joe"
Featured role. He's given plenty of attention in this film, and has the ideas behind defeating the other team. The captain of the opposing team intimidates him at first, but eventually calls him "Mister Joe."
Allen "Farina" Hoskins
Featured role. Referred to as "Farina" in the continuity, but not named in the titles. He has most of the funny business in the film, mostly involving the Italian boy.
Jay R. Smith
Supporting role. He's the kicker on the Our Gang team. He has one scene where he's repeatedly sneezing on Jackie, and later scores two of the Gang's touchdowns.
Jackie Condon as "Jackie"
Supporting role. He seems to be the leader of the team. His name appears on a message on a fence in which he wants to trade in his baby brother. He seems to mostly do ensemble work, aside from his sneezing scene with Jay R.
Harry Spear
Supporting role. He's not specifically mentioned in the cutting continuity, but he's shown in the photograph in the Maltin & Bann book, and clearly is a member of the team. He probably does exclusively ensemble acting in this film. It's possible that he's the boy identified as "Toughy" in the continuity, though this name didn't appear in the inter-titles.
Jannie Hoskins
Supporting role. The cutting continuity refers to her as "Mango," but she isn't named in the titles. Her main job is to knock members of the opposing team on their heads with a hammer.
Bobby "Wheezer" Hutchins as "Wheezer"
Small part. Not listed by Maltin & Bann. He's introduced in a title card, but aside from a bit of funny business at the beginning, the continuity doesn't reveal his presence elsewhere in the film.
Jean Darling
Small part. The Progressive Silent Film List implies that her first name was used in the film, but the cutting continuity doesn't mention her. However, it does mention a nurse who kisses Wheezer's hand after he hurts it, and Jean is shown in Maltin & Bann's book in the nurse outfit.
Godfrey "Duffy" Craig
Small part. A 1927 casting directory states that he appeared in this film, and a publicity photo corroborates this, showing him as one of the players, presumably for the opposing team.
Jack Hanlon
Small part. He's shown in publicity photos, and seems to be on the gang's team.
Paul Toien
Small part. He's shown in publicity photos, and seems to be on the gang's team.
Johnny Aber
Small part. Not listed by Maltin & Bann. He's shown in at least one publicity photo, and seems to be on the gang's team.
Gabe Saenz
Small part. Publicity photos reveal him to be a member of the opposing team.
Buddy McNeal
Small part. Photos reveal that he's one of the football players in this film.
Buddy Moore
Small part. He's shown in publicity photos, and seems to be on the gang's team.
Stanton Heck, Jr.
Small part. A lobby card for this film shows a football player that looks quite a lot like him.
Robert Parrish
Small part. Parrish describes the scene where Mango is hammering boys on the head, one of whom is Parrish. This would mean that he was a member of the opposing team. He remembers it being Farina who does the hammering, but the continuity says it's Mango. He also remembers this being his first Our Gang film, but he worked on "Olympic Games" (no. 63) previously.
Robert Cruzon
Presumed small part. A 1927 casting directory states that he appeared in this film, and also went by the name Robert Donaldson.
Carl Busch
Presumed extra. A 1927 casting directory states that he appeared in this film. Being a younger kid at the time, I would presume that he's sitting in the stands in this film.
other kids
Supporting roles, bit parts and extras.
(1.) The remaining members of the Gas House Garlics team, presumably numbering nine, including an Italian garlic-eating boy named "Grange," a boy who bends a horseshoe, a 'hard-boiled' boy, and the team captain, who might be one of the three already mentioned.
(2.) The remaining members of the Our Gang team, presumably numbering five.
(3.) The referee.
(4.) The 'yell leader,' as the continuity calls him, leading the grandstand cheers. There might be another one for the opposing team. There is also another reference to a kid with a megaphone, who may or may not be the 'yell leader.'
(5.) The boy that serves as the announcer at the game.
(6.) The Our Gang team's coach.
(7.) The little boy and girl who read Jackie's notice.
(8.) The little boy who drowns cats and the little girls that surround him, each holding a cat.
(9.) Several kids in the grandstand.

the animals:

Pete (no. 1)
Small part. The cutting continuity doesn't actually name him, but it does mention a dog as part of the Our Gang team, and Pete is shown in more than one press photo taken for this film.
Bit part. The MGM lion appears at the opening of the film.
other animals
Bit parts.
(1.) The cats being held by the girls that surround the cat-drowning boy.
(2.) The duck that Farina picks up and runs with, thinking it's the football. After Farina is tackled, the duck is shown without feathers, so there was probably a second duck used for this shot.

the adults:

Martha Sleeper
Presumed bit part. According to Maltin & Bann, who presumably viewed a promotional photo showing her. She's not mentioned in the cutting continuity, nor are any other adults.

the locations:

Hubbard St., Culver City
This was the location used for the football field, and was either part of, or adjacent to, the Roach studio. It's the same location used for the amusement park in "Boys Will Be Joys" (no. 42) and the football game in "Washee Ironee" (no. 131).


12 shooting dates went into the making of this film. Nearly a week after shooting had finished for production K-23, which was either "Playin' Hookey" (no. 65) or "The Smile Wins" (no. 66), the 'start' date for "Yale Vs. Harvard" arrived on June 13th. Filming continued until the 'finish' date of June 24th. No shooting took place on June 12th, which was a Sunday, but the unit did shoot on Sunday, June 19th, presumably to allow for an extra day off around the upcoming holiday on July 4th. Robert F. McGowan directed on each of the shooting dates. Just three days after shooting finished, the Our Gang unit began filming production K-24, which was either "Playin' Hookey" or "The Smile Wins."

The titles reveal the opposing team to be named the Gas House Garlics, though the kids in the grandstand hold up cards that spell out 'Third St.'

The script submitted to MGM was given the catalog number B682.

In December 1927, there was a vaudeville act called "Yale Vs. Harvard" which was performed by The Gang Kids. It isn't clear whether this was an authorized variation of the film or just an opportunistic 'borrowing' of the title. This act performed in Valparaiso, Indiana, on Dec. 31st.

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My thanks to the following people for assisting with this page:
Rob Stone (for providing the production number and shooting dates)
Joe Moore (for providing the copyright information)
Diane Winters (for identifying her brother, Paul Toien)
Matthew Lydick (for pointing out Gabe Saenz in the photos)

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