Seein' Things

film no. 25

technical details:

Production A-25.

Filmed October 25 to November 7, December 19, 1923, and January 7, 1924. See the 'miscellaneous' section below for details.

Released April 6, 1924. It was the 24th film in the series to be released.

Copyrighted May 12, 1924, by Pathé Exchange, Inc. Registration no. LU20191. Since the copyright was not renewed, this film is now in the public domain.

Silent two-reeler.

Probable opening title: '"Our Gang" Comedies - Hal Roach presents His Rascals in "Seein' Things".'

Released into TV syndication as Mischief Makers episode no. 1018, "A Crazy Dream," copyrighted Sep. 1, 1960, with registration number LP17323.

the crew:

Produced by Hal Roach
Probably credited in the film as a presenter.
Directed by Robert F. McGowan
This credit probably appears in the film, but without his middle initial.
Assistant Director: Clarence Morehouse
This credit derives from Morehouse's payroll status as the Our Gang assistant director until the week ending Dec. 15th.
Photographed by Harry W. Gerstad and Blake Wagner
Gerstad probably receives sole credit in the film. Maltin & Bann switch his middle initial with a V. The payroll summaries indicate that he was not present for the retakes. Wagner's credit derives from his status as the Our Gang cameraman during the time of the December retakes.
Edited by Thomas J. Crizer
This credit probably appears in the film as 'T. J. Crizer.'
Titles by H. M. Walker
This credit probably appears in the film.
Props by Charles Oelze, Don Sandstrom and E. P. Norris
This credit derives from their payroll status as Our Gang prop men during this period. Norris's name was removed from the payroll summaries after the week ending Oct. 27th. Sandstrom's name was removed after the week ending Jan. 5th.
Story by Hal E. Roach
This credit probably doesn't appear in the film. Mark Goldaine was listed in the payroll summaries as an Our Gang writer during this period.
Teacher: Fern Carter
Released by Pathé Exchange, Inc.
Passed by the National Board of Review
Probably indicated in the film.
studio personnel
general manager - Warren Doane
assistant general manager - L. A. French
secretary-treasurer - C. H. Roach
construction supervisor - C. E. Christensen
still photographer - Bud "Stax" Graves
transportation director - Bob Davis
possible uncredited involvement
writing - Robert F. McGowan, Thomas J. Crizer and Leo McCarey may have been among the gag writers.

the kids:

Allen "Farina" Hoskins as "Farina"
Lead role. He's referred to as "her" in the inter-titles, but then he flirts with a girl in one scene, so his gender was left very much in the air during this period. This is the first starring vehicle for Farina, as the rest of the gang definitely take a back seat.
Dorothy Morrison
Supporting role. Maltin & Bann list Florence Morrison, who either appears in a scene not included in my print, or is listed in error. She appears only in dream sequence, but makes a notable appearance.
Jackie Condon
Supporting role. He does mostly ensemble acting, but gets a small highlight as he walks out on the plank to try to catch Farina.
Mickey Daniels as "Mickey"
Supporting role. Like most of the others, he appears frequently in the short, but does only ensemble acting.
Ernie "Sunshine Sammy" Morrison
Supporting role. Maltin & Bann don't give him a nickname in the cast listing, but they call him "Sunshine Sammy" in the text portion. Ernie doubles for Farina in some of the human fly shots, but otherwise does nothing too special.
Joe Cobb
Supporting role. He, too, does mostly ensemble acting in this short.
Andy Samuel
Supporting role. He's one of the main gang, but isn't given anything specific to do.
Mary Kornman as "Mary"
Small part. She appears at the gang's barbecue, but doesn't join in chasing Farina around.
other kids
Bit part. The only remaining kid is the baby shown briefly outside of his or her carriage.

the animals:

No animals appear in the available print, nor in a print owned by Robin Cook of C. W. Films which is virtually complete, making this film very unique among the silents.

the adults:

Helen Gilmore as the baby's mother
Bit part. Not listed by Maltin & Bann. She appears briefly to discover the gang pummeling Farina while he's in the baby carriage.
Joseph "Ernie" Morrison as the dancer in top hat and tails
Bit part. According to Maltin & Bann. He doesn't appear in this print.
Silas D. Wilcox as the police officer
Bit part. He doesn't appear in this print, but he's in the upcoming version from C. W. Films.
other adults
Small parts, bit parts and extras.
(1.) Farina's mother, who puts him to bed when she sees his swollen belly.
(2.) The driver of the truck that loses its food. The sign on the truck reads "The Elite."
(3.) Two construction workers preparing the dynamite, plus one more blowing it up.
(4.) Somebody in a row boat.
(5.) Many pedestrians on the sidewalk below.
in still images
A portrait of Abraham Lincoln is on the wall of Farina's home.

the locations:

Hill Street Tunnel
This was located just north of the intersection with 1st Street. Many comedies were filmed on top of the tunnel, with facades being built and the buildings to the south serving as the background, giving the impression that the actors were in great danger at a perilous height. Virtually all of the footage in this film involving the kids on the rooftop and on the side of the building were shot at this location. Seen in one of the shots is the top of the Central Police Station on 1st Street between Broadway and Hill. Also seen in these shots is the dome of the Los Angeles Times Building at the northeast corner of 1st and Broadway.
Motor Avenue, Palms district, Los Angeles
The location of the barbecue was off of the east side of Motor Avenue just north of Featherstone Avenue. Seen in the distance in one of the shots is the house at the southwest corner of Motor and Irene. The house with the baby carriage was at 3359 Motor, and is the same one later used in "The Old Wallop" (no. 68). Seen next to it is the Palms Hardware Co. at 3351 Motor. These two buildings are also in the background as Dorothy vanishes into thin air. As the truck is being loaded with food, we see some of the businesses just north of this spot. While Farina is wearing his top hat, he walks right by the former Palms Chamber of Commerce building on the east side of the 3300 block of Motor. In the film, this building is currently being sold by Geo. F. McCreary, and would soon become home to the Micholithic company. When he sees Dorothy vanish the first time, she's actually on the right side of the 3400 block. In another shot, we see Farina passing the Palms Press on the west side of the 3300 block.
Motor Avenue and Woodbine Street
Farina receives his unexpected feast on Woodbine Street, just east of the intersection with Motor. Behind him is the Masonic Hall at 3402 Motor. As the truck drives by, we can also see the People's Water Co. on the northeast corner at 3392 Motor. When Farina first meets up with Dorothy, they're on Woodbine just west of Motor. The camera is pointing north and shows the addresses at 3359 and 3351 Motor listed above. As Farina reacts to Dorothy's disappearing act, he's still on Woodbine, even though Dorothy is on Motor. In another shot on this part of Woodbine, we get another glimpse of the People's Water Co.
National Boulevard and Vinton Avenue
As the boys are watching Farina scale the tall building, they're standing in front of the large house at the corner of these two streets.
The Sun Drug Co.
This is shown as the camera looks down at the sidewalk from the top of the building. This building is also shown in the Harold Lloyd film "Girl Shy."
miniature sets
These were currently being used for The Dippy Doo Dads series at the Roach studio.


14 shooting dates went into the making of this film, with Robert McGowan directing on each date. One day after principle shooting ended for "The Buccaneers" (no. 24), the 'start' date for "Seein' Things" arrived on Oct. 25th. Shooting continued until the 'finish' date of Nov. 7th. No shooting took place on Nov. 4th, which was a Sunday, though the Our Gang unit spent Sunday, Oct. 28th, doing retakes for "The Buccaneers" under the direction of Mark Goldaine. Immediately following the 'finish' date for "Seein' Things," Goldaine began work on "Commencement Day" (no. 26), which continued until early December, when he began work on "It's A Bear" (no. 27). Shooting for this latter film took a day off on Dec. 19th while McGowan did retakes for "Seein' Things" (no. 25). After this, work continued on "It's A Bear" until Goldaine's departure from the studio on Jan. 5th. On Monday, Jan. 7th, McGowan alternated between three films, "Commencement Day," "It's A Bear" and "Seein' Things," this last one finally being finished. After this, McGowan spent the rest of the week finishing the other two films.

The kids are holding the Dugans Alley Annule Barbercooe at the start of this film, repeating a place name from "No Noise" (no. 20).

The 1923 and 1924 studio datebooks reveal what the weather was like on the various shooting dates. It was described as 'clear' on each shooting date except October 31st, when it was described as 'cloudy AM - rain PM.' Unusually for this period, even the Sundays were noted.

This film was the sixth of six in the fourth 'series' of Our Gang films.

40 still images were printed into numerous press photos to promote this film.

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My thanks to the following people for assisting with this page:
Rob Stone (for providing the production number and shooting dates)
Joe Moore (for providing the copyright information)
Robin Cook (for verifying the presence of Silas D. Wilcox in the cast, and the lack of any animals in the film, and also for identifying the Sun Drug Co. and Geo. McCreary's middle initial)

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